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Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:40 am

The McCormick Place in Chicago has some up in the ceiling in one area, though they are a bit more narrow and smaller.
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:43 am

4J25 wrote:They have those right outside Right Patterson AFB: Image
That looks nothing like the one I posted lol

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Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:40 pm

Just consider the driving source. A Thunderbolt horn has a 10 HP (~7500 watt) blower supplying a high air flow at moderate pressure to a chopper, wheareas the horn in the gym has a compression driver driven by 100 or so watts of audio power. Even though the horn may be very similar, the driving power to it is on the order of 1/75 the power. That in itself would give it about 18.75 dB less output than a Thunderbolt, which in a gym is still a high output (on the order of 110 dB at 100 or 140 dB at 1 meter).

ggms24 wrote:Wow I guess they can't be too loud then if your they had 4 of them in a high school sized gym
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http://tinyurl.com/3fw2c6y
Here is a video of a horn that resembles a Thunderbolt that would be every bit as loud. It is neither a siren nor a loudspeaker, but a special air horn used by NASA for acoustical stess testing of spacecraft components in a reverberant test chamber. It is now owned by Mike Socal.

Unlike a siren, the pitch is determined primarily by the horn's length. Being almost 7.5 feet long, it has a fundamental frequency on the order of only 105 Hz and carries like crazy. Listen to the long echoes!
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:59 pm

On measuring, the frequency is actually closer to 100 Hz.

acoustics101 wrote:http://tinyurl.com/3fw2c6y Unlike a siren, the pitch is determined primarily by the horn's length. Being almost 7.5 feet long, it has a fundamental frequency on the order of only 105 Hz and carries like crazy. Listen to the long echoes!
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:20 pm

The shape of the horn, is basically a standard exponential horn. The size is tuned to the size of the horn driver (i.e. the chopper opening in the T-Bolt, or the actual diaphragm in a vibratory horn, or the speaker cone in an audio loudspeaker). There is a lot of very complicated math involved, which I won't pretend to understand, LOL.

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Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:26 pm

I have seen a couple of these around here, Especially at the older universities and schools. I have a pic of them around here somewhere... If not I'll just run in and get a pic of em.
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:34 pm

Well, I just found out today that my high school has eight, along with eight regular speakers.
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:57 pm

ggms24 wrote:
4J25 wrote:They have those right outside Right Patterson AFB: Image
That looks nothing like the one I posted lol
kind of
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Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:31 pm

We had a gigantic one in my former junior high school's auditorium. It was probably bigger than an actual Thunderbolt horn. I wish I would have thought to get a picture before they tore the place down. I remember going in for 7th grade orientation and seeing that on the ceiling and it just totally blowing my mind. I thought it was really a Thunderbolt! At that point(over a decade ago), I had never seen a 'bolt in person.


Apparently, it had something to do with the massive pipe organ system in there, which I also never had the chance to hear, sadly.

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