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Fri May 07, 2010 12:25 am

My experience with many things is that a pig's breakfast like what you guys saw is a fault of the system. When I get bollocks-up service from a business, it's usually because nobody trained the poor chump they threw out there naked. This bid was set up to fail. Glad it came out the right way.

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Thu May 13, 2010 8:31 pm

The article SIREN COMPANY HIRES LAWYER is on the right hand side.

http://communitypress.cincinnati.com/ar ... -rail-stop
Resident of a county with big a mixture of sirens, but in the process of being replaced. :(

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Thu May 13, 2010 9:06 pm

Sigh. When will Federal learn that it was beaten fair and square?

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Beaten fair and square

Thu May 13, 2010 9:08 pm

Federal was beaten four times fair and square.

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Thu May 13, 2010 9:08 pm

I find this rather ironic...
Federal Signal's attorney, Charles Hertlein Jr., from the Cincinnati firm Dinsmore & Shohl, told the county commissioners Wednesday that the bidding process "lacked integrity."

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Thu May 13, 2010 9:10 pm

"Federal Signal's attorney, Charles Hertlein Jr., from the Cincinnati firm Dinsmore & Shohl, told the county commissioners Wednesday that the bidding process 'lacked integrity.'"

That's a riot. I wouldn't take lessons on integrity from Federal. They need to move on. Lord knows they won't fail to continue making money screwing cities over with their sub-par sirens.
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Well said

Thu May 13, 2010 9:20 pm

AMEN

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Thu May 13, 2010 11:06 pm

I'm not a Federal lover or a ASC hater but, hasn't this gone on long enough? You guys seem to be making a useless farce out of this. You guys will say Federal signal is crap, talk about how poorly built their sirens are, but then turn around and say stuff like "The thunderbolt siren is the best ever built." If Hamilton county goes with Federal, so be it.
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Thu May 13, 2010 11:23 pm

Looks like Federal is p*ssed now that they are in ASC and Clay T Werden's old boat. Except they were beaten fair and square.

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Thu May 13, 2010 11:25 pm

It's a damn shame, but don't be surprised if Federal is able to get a court order against this bid. If the RFP specified that warranty information was to be provided and it wasn't there, then there's a material question of fact whether ASC's bid was responsive or not, and that almost requires a hearing at some time in the future. If you're a bidder, you've got to double and triple check bids to make absolutely sure every single required element is present.

But if the requirement isn't there, move for a summary judgment against Federal and sanctions for perpetrating a fraud on the Court.

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