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Re: Pawhuska, OK to Replace Sirens

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:46 pm
by Brendan Ahern
I think that ATI could be a decent company if they cleaned up their products a bit. Not sure where most of the problems lie, in the drivers, or the controls. It would seem better to use 400W amplifiers instead of the 1600 watt ones that are part of the control system, make them separate like the other companies do. The other thing that always gets me is lack of wire management up at the horns. Just wire all over the place. It would not take much effort to secure it and have a junction box instead of that weather head thing they do. ASC does it and it looks better, not to mention, no pulling out of the wires due to nature. Tones should also be improved to be more traditional like the other companies, with a lower pitch. Those things along with output honesty, and I think they would be alright. I don't believe the outputs of the HPSS series or the ASC E class. There is no way they are as loud as they sound. Not a big deal if they would be honest about it. I don't understand why ASC pushes the E-Class over the I-Force, except for maybe height and weight, but that's another story altogether. I also feel that if ATI built a custom stackable unit, like ASC, FS and Whelen do, that would also help them out a lot.

Re: Pawhuska, OK to Replace Sirens

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:21 pm
by dilloncarpenter
Is there any information about any of the old sirens? I haven't seen anything about them.

Re: Pawhuska, OK to Replace Sirens

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:12 pm
by holler
I think Pawhuska has a bunch of model 2's and 2t's. There was a video on youtube of them going off for a storm.

Re: Pawhuska, OK to Replace Sirens

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:40 pm
by coastalsyrolover
You know most of those sirens mentioned above can be seen in the video...

Re: Pawhuska, OK to Replace Sirens

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:49 pm
by dilloncarpenter
coastalsyrolover wrote:You know most of those sirens mentioned above can be seen in the video...
I'd like to know what video you're referring to. I've seen like three videos of Pawhuska warnings and they were both dark.

I've found two sirens on Google maps so far and I can't tell what either of them are because street view is non-existant.

Re: Pawhuska, OK to Replace Sirens

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:57 pm
by dilloncarpenter
I just watched that. I'm at school so I couldn't at first. I have a few blowoff classes now lol

Re: Pawhuska, OK to Replace Sirens

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:49 pm
by coastalsyrolover
Lol. Well… There they are I guess? Hey at least there is videos and pics of them… The only sirens I see in SFO are the thunderbolt 1003 on the ferry building, a few pics of the heath siren and the model 5. All of the STL-10s and the other thunderbolts were replaced and I don't think I have ever seen any of the SFO STL-10s and I think I have only seen one of the other thunderbolts.

Re: Pawhuska, OK to Replace Sirens

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:06 pm
by coastalsyrolover
Sorry I got a bit carried away. My point was at least you can see these sirens before the ATI disease infects the city.

Re: Pawhuska, OK to Replace Sirens

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:22 pm
by uncommonsense
Uh, where did they say they were getting ATIs? I think someone made an assumption and people ran with it as fact.

Re: Pawhuska, OK to Replace Sirens

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:30 pm
by uncommonsense
Update: And my post above is correct. Everyone jumped to conclusions. ASC won the bid.
The Pawhuska City Council on Monday awarded a bid that will have the city outfitted with new electronic storm sirens, replacing old mechanical ones that are activated by an archaic – and extremely expensive – telephone landline.
The council voted to award the bid for five new sirens to American Signal Corp. for $62,650.
The city currently has 13 old sirens that are activated by telephone. The bill for the telephone system was $1,500 a month last year and rose to $1,900 a month this year. City manager Paul McAlexander said last month that the savings on the phone bills should pay for the sirens in five years.
“They are going to keep increasing the telephone bill; there’s not end in sight,” he said. “The telephone controlled sirens are older than we are.”
The new sirens should cover the entire city – but, as with all storm sirens, are designed to warn people who are outdoors, not those snoozing in bed with the hum of an air-conditioner behind closed windows.
They will blare 360 degrees and between 108 and 130 decibels at 100 feet. That’s about as loud as a car horn or chainsaw from one yard away, up to as load as a military jet take-off from 50 feet away, i.e. loud.
The new sirens will have seven warning tones: Wail, Attack, Alert, Hi/Lo, Pulsed Airhorn, Slow Whoop, and Noon Test. They will be radio controlled and operate on rechargeable batteries, thus working during even long periods when the power is out.
Source: http://barnsdalltimes.com/http:/barnsda ... orm-sirens