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Re: What is the difference between Whelen WPS-4004 and Whelen Vortex R4?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:21 am
by uncommonsense
10V2T wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:52 pm
CombineplayzTV wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:02 pm
Well, I looked up Whelen Vortex R3, and it still has 4 throats. Is one of the throats empty without a driver?
I think either that or the drivers in the throats are of less wattage.
Whelen only uses 400 watt drivers supplied by Community Loudspeaker. R3 has one throat empty.
Re: What is the difference between Whelen WPS-4004 and Whelen Vortex R4?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:03 am
by WPS4004Man
Some_3t22s wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:21 pm
Basically what Eows said. As far as I'm aware Vortexes only had the finback option too, though I'd need someone else with extensive knowledge on Whelens to verify that.
Does anyone know the purpose of the fins on the older models? Was it just for looks or was it useful in some way? Sorry if this is common knowledge.
Re: What is the difference between Whelen WPS-4004 and Whelen Vortex R4?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:55 pm
by HudsonRiverSirens
WPS4004Man wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:03 am
Some_3t22s wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:21 pm
Basically what Eows said. As far as I'm aware Vortexes only had the finback option too, though I'd need someone else with extensive knowledge on Whelens to verify that.
Does anyone know the purpose of the fins on the older models? Was it just for looks or was it useful in some way? Sorry if this is common knowledge.
I think it was to better distribute the weight.
Re: What is the difference between Whelen WPS-4004 and Whelen Vortex R4?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:25 pm
by CombineplayzTV
I think it had something to do with Wind.
Re: What is the difference between Whelen WPS-4004 and Whelen Vortex R4?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:30 pm
by Some_3t22s
10V2T wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:55 pm
WPS4004Man wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:03 am
Some_3t22s wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:21 pm
Basically what Eows said. As far as I'm aware Vortexes only had the finback option too, though I'd need someone else with extensive knowledge on Whelens to verify that.
Does anyone know the purpose of the fins on the older models? Was it just for looks or was it useful in some way? Sorry if this is common knowledge.
I think it was to better distribute the weight.
Why would they drop the fins on the newer models (if they actually did) then?
Re: What is the difference between Whelen WPS-4004 and Whelen Vortex R4?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:14 pm
by HudsonRiverSirens
Some_3t22s wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:30 pm
10V2T wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:55 pm
WPS4004Man wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:03 am
Does anyone know the purpose of the fins on the older models? Was it just for looks or was it useful in some way? Sorry if this is common knowledge.
I think it was to better distribute the weight.
Why would they drop the fins on the newer models (if they actually did) then?
Very honestly I have no clue. My answer was just speculation.
Re: What is the difference between Whelen WPS-4004 and Whelen Vortex R4?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:33 pm
by uncommonsense
My understanding is the first gen Vortex rotators are belt driven as opposed to later gear driven models (it’s obvious from looking at the boxes the first gen Vortex uses a very different type of rotator). The fins better handled the wind load so as to reduce the chance of damage to the rotation mechanism under high winds.
Re: What is the difference between Whelen WPS-4004 and Whelen Vortex R4?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:25 pm
by Some_3t22s
I was thinking it had something to do with wind, however I had absolutely no solid idea what it was for.
Re: What is the difference between Whelen WPS-4004 and Whelen Vortex R4?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:26 pm
by NottaFoamer
uncommonsense wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:33 pm
My understanding is the first gen Vortex rotators are belt driven as opposed to later gear driven models (it’s obvious from looking at the boxes the first gen Vortex uses a very different type of rotator). The fins better handled the wind load so as to reduce the chance of damage to the rotation mechanism under high winds.
And did they drop it because it messed up the gear rotators? Or something else
Re: What is the difference between Whelen WPS-4004 and Whelen Vortex R4?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:56 pm
by Some_3t22s
Eows 115 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:26 pm
uncommonsense wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:33 pm
My understanding is the first gen Vortex rotators are belt driven as opposed to later gear driven models (it’s obvious from looking at the boxes the first gen Vortex uses a very different type of rotator). The fins better handled the wind load so as to reduce the chance of damage to the rotation mechanism under high winds.
And did they drop it because it messed up the gear rotators? Or something else
This is just a guess but it's probably a reliability thing.