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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:13 pm
by SirenMadness
Well, the clearance between the rotor and the stator is quite big, which could explain the lack of sound from the ports in relation to the front of the siren.
I believe that the sound is coming from the intake because the air that is getting sucked into the rotor pulsates in synchronization with the air being expelled out the rotor, to equalize the pressure, causing sound to form in the intake, and since the frequency of the air falling into the intake is the same as the frequency of bursts of air from the rotor, the sound from the intake is generally the same in pitch as the sound from the stator.
This is a little theory of mine I've had for a year or so.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:31 am
by Henry455
In regards to curved/angled blades, at least with some vehicular sirens,
Q series curved
C5A angled/curved
B & M angled/curved
77 doubletone straight
28 straight
Sterling M30 straight

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Clockwise from top left, Model 28, 77, Q, Sterling

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C5A

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:05 am
by AllSafe
Those are quite aggressive curves on that Q rotor; I bet it helps quite a bit with efficiency.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:33 pm
by holler
Ok guys check this out, I have finished modifying my little grey siren and here is the finished product, installed in its own housing. I have uploaded test videos on the Audio/Video forum.

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List of things I have done:

Removed those annoying finger guards

Cut the "daisy" design out of the top to allow more air flow

Painted the inside of the stator with a HEAVY coat of paint to reduce the rotor/stator clearance and increase output

Painted it Ace Hardware Safety Yellow and added the cover (I'll let you guys figure out what the cover is :wink: )[/img]

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:50 pm
by Adam Pollak
I'm gonna go with roof vent topper.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:53 pm
by holler
Adam Pollak wrote:I'm gonna go with roof vent topper.
Yep

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:33 pm
by Daniel
I like the vent cover. Has this changed the sound, along with your modifications?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:23 am
by holler
The vent cover has changed the sound by deflecting any sound that is coming out of the top of the siren back towards the ground.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:45 am
by stator-potater
i was gonna say it looks like the top of a bird feeder.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:04 am
by Jim_Ferer
I'm going to say that the space between rotor and stator helps explain why the sound output is attenuated when air if blown into the intake. The hypothesis goes like this: the forced air is getting into the annular space between the rotor and stator and interfering with air chopping.

This is an experiment that may help prove or disprove the hypothesis: blow air into the intake through a small diameter hose pointed right in the center of the intake, to avoid air getting into the rotor/stator space as much as possible. If the sound improves compared with nothing and using a shop-vac still hurts output, that might be the answer.