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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:03 am
by Robert Gift
mgear wrote:I highly doubt it.
SIMILAR?
Motor in middle between upper and lower rotor/stator assemblies?
Upper and lower tube air intakes just like 2t22.
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:18 am
by Daniel
Both are basically "bench grinder" sirens standing on end. There are only so many ways to build a siren, even with different port ratios and sound-projecting apparati.
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:47 pm
by mgear
Robert Gift wrote:mgear wrote:I highly doubt it.
SIMILAR?
Motor in middle between upper and lower rotor/stator assemblies?
Upper and lower tube air intakes just like 2t22.
I said that because if it was simply that close it would have patent infringements.
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:13 am
by Justin
mgear wrote:Robert Gift wrote:mgear wrote:I highly doubt it.
SIMILAR?
Motor in middle between upper and lower rotor/stator assemblies?
Upper and lower tube air intakes just like 2t22.
I said that because if it was simply that close it would have patent infringements.
You highly doubt what?
Simply having the same port ratios as another, similar device isn't substantial enough to start a patent infringement case. It may be similar in design in some respects to the 2T22 but it's certainly not patent infringing. I have yet to see a patent relating to the 2T22 or the 3T22 and I can't see any major similarities between the two devices, apart from their configuration.
Both are basically "bench grinder" sirens standing on end. There are only so many ways to build a siren, even with different port ratios and sound-projecting apparati.
Agreed. If either Fed. Sig. or Am. Sig. had a patent on this 'bench grinder' type, then there'd be a problem.
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:43 am
by Corey Hudson
How much power (H.P.) does this "bench grinder" have compared to a 2t22.
::EDIT::
Is this a 115?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:10 am
by Gil
Were either of those sirens even patented? I haven't been able to find one of either.
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:15 am
by Justin
coreyhudson2 wrote:Is this a 115?
Could be, but it could also be a Soundmaster.
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:33 am
by Gil
It's 100% a Soundmaster
Iron Ridge Siren
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:58 pm
by buggsr
You are looking at a SOUNDMASTER
Iron Ridge and Taycheeda Wisconsin and some Rock County Rig
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:06 pm
by buggsr
(Beercan and Underware) a/k/a ACA as Soundmaster called Biersach and Niedermeyer didn't make many if any Super Banshee Sirens.....Attorney Jim Morgan of Madison, Wisconsin (Deceased) started Soundmaster and it pretty much died with him in the 1970's.....
Those 20HP rigs are almost indestructable if they withstand deep freeze conditions that bend the motor shafts or burn up the motors.....
Yes they are similar to Federal Signal 2T22's but there is a major difference in design and construction as well as specs...