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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:30 am
by carexpertandy
Here's the 1000th reply in this topic!
Nice to hear it sounds like it might be fixed. I assumed it was no longer operable because of electricity being shut off in the factory. What was the real reason if it is operable now?
Lockland
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:36 am
by SIRENMAN
It does not work the electric has actually been stolen from the building. These are the guys I want to hire to remove the sirens. They do it in the night, without wages and do it for the scrap value. These are the guys the County should hire.
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:08 pm
by carexpertandy
Then it was probably moved from the wind or somebody went up there and moved it. Did this happen back in 2008? I believe it was stuck pointed towards I-75 South since then.
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:22 am
by Oldiesmann
I didn't know that there was any electricity going to that building since it had been vacant for years, and particularly because of the big fire they had there back in 2004.
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:17 pm
by carexpertandy
I filmed the Tbolt 1000T that's on top of the building Clark Montessori is currently using in Winton Hills, and the blower doesn't work! I guess it won't be fixed at this point since the bidding for installing the new sirens is tomorrow.
I also ran into this article. Which siren in Hamilton County will Butler be able to activate?
http://www.fox19.com/story/15036027/but ... ren-policy
Butler County unveils county-wide tornado siren policy
More Local NewsPolice looking for more victims in Blue Ash quick change scamButler County unveils county-wide tornado siren policyPolice: Teenagers admit stealing drugs, computer equipment, jewelry from over 50 vehiclesNASCAR drivers visit Mazak plantDef Leppard concert postponedFAIRFIELD, OH (FOX19) - Officials in Butler County unveiled their new county-wide tornado siren policy Wednesday morning; under the new plan authorities can sound the sirens in four different scenarios:
?The National Weather Service issues a tornado warning
?The National Weather Service identifies a Doppler indicated cell
?A credible public sighting of a funnel cloud
?A police chief, fire chief, sheriff or emergency management officials decides to activate the sirens
"The important fact is that we're all on the same sheet of music, that when the tornado sirens go off, we're all on the same page," said Fairfield Township Fire Chief David Downie.
"So, basically when you hear those sirens there is imminent danger or the possibility of a tornado, and that's when we want people to take action and take safety," said Jeff Galloway of the Butler County Emergency Management Agency.
In the event of a tornado warning 90 different sirens will all be set off simultaneously from seven dispatch centers in Butler County and one in Hamilton County, under the plan sirens won't be sounded for a tornado watch or thunderstorm warning.
"Our overall goal is the safety of everybody, and having one system so we don't have the confusion," Galloway said.
But, could confusion still exist since West Chester Township is opting out of the new policy?
"I think when it comes down to it, West Chester will abide by the county-wide policy," Galloway said.
Officials in Butler County say the new policy gives them more authority when it comes to sounding the sirens.
"Two Fairfield Twp. police officers spotted a funnel cloud at Bypass 4 and 129 and because we didn't have the authority that we currently have to have our sirens set off, because they're set off through a different dispatch center, we couldn't get that accomplished," Downie said.
The Butler County EMA also emphasizes that's residents shouldn't solely relay on the sirens, Downie recommends residents purchase a NOAA weather alert radio, to ensure families can hear the warnings if they're indoors.
"It's very important that you have that indoor notification, they're relatively cheap, you can program it to your county," Downie said.
The policy was adopted July 1.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:59 am
by carexpertandy
I ran into another article about Butler County changing their siren policy. This one says that they may possibly get 59 of Hamilton County's older sirens that they're replacing in areas that aren't covered!
http://www.journal-news.com/news/hamilt ... 01852.html
Countywide tornado siren policy in full swing
FAIRFIELD TWP. ? A fundamental question asked when the new countywide tornado siren policy was being developed was the catalyst for it.
?How do we effectively cut off sirens in the middle of neighborhoods?? said Butler County Emergency Management Agency Director Jeff Galloway Wednesday morning at Fairfield East Elementary on Morris Road.
Before Friday, there were several nonuniform policies around the county that authorized tornado sirens to be activated only when in a designated storm area, or a weather box. Those boxes often included parts of neighborhoods and streets.
?This was our primary reason why we went with a countywide tornado policy,? Galloway said.
The policy dictates how the 90 sirens ? each owned by the respective jurisdictions ? would be activated for a tornado warning. And since only tornado warnings will result in the sirens? activation, Fairfield Twp. Fire Chief David Downie said there?s now no confusion.
?I think it?s something that we needed,? said Downie, who is on the committee that formed the policy. ?We?re all on the same sheet of music.?
Downie and Galloway said when sirens in Butler County sound - except when they are tested at noon on the first Wednesday of each month - people need to seek shelter immediately.
It took a year for Galloway to travel to each community pitching the policy. While West Chester Twp. was the only one not to adopt the policy, trustee President Catherine Stoker had said it?s likely the township?s sirens will go off when the rest of the county?s sirens do.
The policy dictates only the National Weather Service, a certified weather spotter, or a police, fire or EMA official may authorize the activation of the sirens.
Galloway and Downie noted the sirens are not designed to be heard from the inside, which is why they also stressed Wednesday that residents purchase a NOAA weather radio, which retails for about $30.
There was no costs associated with developing the countywide plan. However, Galloway anticipates receiving 59 recycled tornado sirens from Hamilton County to install in areas that aren?t covered, mostly in the western and northern parts of the county. Each siren?s sound has about a mile and a half radius.
Grants from Homeland Security and Federal Emergency Management Agency are being sought to pay for those sirens, he said.
BID UPDATE
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:47 pm
by SIRENMAN
Well guys bids are in and I am on vacation and I was not at the bid opening. I called to get the base price and here are the base bid results.
Werden was at $756,000 (which included a $40,000 allowance) to install 132 sirens some on roofs and some with special brackets remove the Polk building siren by hand and removing 10 or 15 others by hand so the new sirens can be installed on the same roof in the same place.
ANS (American Signal installation Company from New Jersey) was at $177,000 (including $40,000 allowance) or $137,000 to install all of the work explained above. That is about $750 a piece to install the new sirens and the rest in removal.
My cost of a pole and material for each siren on a pole is $800 so be thankful we are getting a new siren system installation free from ASC/ANS. Who said they were greedy?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:07 pm
by carexpertandy
It's good to hear that the bids are in! Does this mean that ANS is installing the sirens?
Bid update
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:13 pm
by SIRENMAN
I will be the first taxpayer on the bandwagon for ANS to install them free.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:16 pm
by holler
So much for buy local stay local.