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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:16 pm
by dilloncarpenter
I hope I don't have to go back and edit every Thunderbeam I've ever mapped...I think you all get the point, though, so it should be good.

Goldsby
Red - P-15
Yellow - Thunderbolt
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:15 am
by Busgeek71
200th post!

Owasso Map
16 HPSS 32
4 2T22
1 EOWS 1212
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Collinsville
3 WPS-4000
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Davenport
2 3T22
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:11 am
by carexpertandy
kswx29 wrote:
Oldiesmann wrote:Federal rated the Thunderbeam at 128dB: http://www.jmarcoz.com/sirens/sc5.pdf. Siren Central on the other hand rates it at 121dB: http://www.sirencentral.com/asp_pages/s ... 348&PCA=61 and http://www.sirencentral.com/asp_pages/s ... 344&PCA=61
I think it is 121db, I usually give Thunderbeams .920 mile radius as I used to live a little under a mile from a Thunderbeam and heard it routinely.

EDIT: Also, I think Claremore uses their Thunderbeams as a "Backup" incase the whelens fail.
Federal commonly falsely advertises decibel ratings as many of us know.

The 2001-130 actually only seems to put out 127 like the older models.

I remember seeing a Thunderbolt 1003 brochure that rated it 124-140 decibles, but it seems like out of every Thunderbolt, only 125 comes out.

I think I've also seen brochures for the EOWS 408 and 812, the 408 was rated 128 decibles, and the 812 was rated 132 decibles. According to Dane County, WI's siren list, they only got 124 out of the 612s, and 115 out of their 1212s, so the 408 and 812 were definetly falsely advertised.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:40 am
by kswx29
Ah, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for sharing! But like I said for the most part, as in the case with Thunderbeams and STH-10s, I give them coverage for how far I have heard them good.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:07 pm
by dilloncarpenter
I tend to give sirens the same radius if they have the same internals. Is that correct? For example, the RSH-10 and the STH-10 both have .920?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:10 am
by kswx29
dilloncarpenter wrote:I tend to give sirens the same radius if they have the same internals. Is that correct? For example, the RSH-10 and the STH-10 both have .920?
Well the Thunderbeam projects the siren out so doesn't that make the sound travel further? I believe the Thunderbolt uses the Model 2s chopper or something doesn't it? Interesting way of putting it tho!

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:18 am
by dilloncarpenter
I guess if the siren was directional, the sound would be sorta compressed instead of spread out, making it louder. Hmm...haven't really thought of it much.

FS has more testing documentation than other siren companies

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:09 pm
by FederalSignalGuy
carexpertandy wrote:
kswx29 wrote:
Oldiesmann wrote:Federal rated the Thunderbeam at 128dB: http://www.jmarcoz.com/sirens/sc5.pdf. Siren Central on the other hand rates it at 121dB: http://www.sirencentral.com/asp_pages/s ... 348&PCA=61 and http://www.sirencentral.com/asp_pages/s ... 344&PCA=61
I think it is 121db, I usually give Thunderbeams .920 mile radius as I used to live a little under a mile from a Thunderbeam and heard it routinely.

EDIT: Also, I think Claremore uses their Thunderbeams as a "Backup" incase the whelens fail.
Federal commonly falsely advertises decibel ratings as many of us know.

The 2001-130 actually only seems to put out 127 like the older models.

I remember seeing a Thunderbolt 1003 brochure that rated it 124-140 decibles, but it seems like out of every Thunderbolt, only 125 comes out.

I think I've also seen brochures for the EOWS 408 and 812, the 408 was rated 128 decibles, and the 812 was rated 132 decibles. According to Dane County, WI's siren list, they only got 124 out of the 612s, and 115 out of their 1212s, so the 408 and 812 were definetly falsely advertised.

Federal Signal has all siren units tested by an independent sound lab, so there is no false advertising. It's well known that some companies change their output overnight with no reason, usually after a competitor had a recent db increase.

Re: FS has more testing documentation than other siren compa

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:04 pm
by Crazywarriorman
FederalSignalGuy wrote:
carexpertandy wrote:
kswx29 wrote: I think it is 121db, I usually give Thunderbeams .920 mile radius as I used to live a little under a mile from a Thunderbeam and heard it routinely.

EDIT: Also, I think Claremore uses their Thunderbeams as a "Backup" incase the whelens fail.
Federal commonly falsely advertises decibel ratings as many of us know.

The 2001-130 actually only seems to put out 127 like the older models.

I remember seeing a Thunderbolt 1003 brochure that rated it 124-140 decibles, but it seems like out of every Thunderbolt, only 125 comes out.

I think I've also seen brochures for the EOWS 408 and 812, the 408 was rated 128 decibles, and the 812 was rated 132 decibles. According to Dane County, WI's siren list, they only got 124 out of the 612s, and 115 out of their 1212s, so the 408 and 812 were definetly falsely advertised.

Federal Signal has all siren units tested by an independent sound lab, so there is no false advertising. It's well known that some companies change their output overnight with no reason, usually after a competitor had a recent db increase.
+1 for you my good man.

Re: FS has more testing documentation than other siren compa

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:05 pm
by holler
FederalSignalGuy wrote:
carexpertandy wrote:
kswx29 wrote: I think it is 121db, I usually give Thunderbeams .920 mile radius as I used to live a little under a mile from a Thunderbeam and heard it routinely.

EDIT: Also, I think Claremore uses their Thunderbeams as a "Backup" incase the whelens fail.
Federal commonly falsely advertises decibel ratings as many of us know.

The 2001-130 actually only seems to put out 127 like the older models.

I remember seeing a Thunderbolt 1003 brochure that rated it 124-140 decibles, but it seems like out of every Thunderbolt, only 125 comes out.

I think I've also seen brochures for the EOWS 408 and 812, the 408 was rated 128 decibles, and the 812 was rated 132 decibles. According to Dane County, WI's siren list, they only got 124 out of the 612s, and 115 out of their 1212s, so the 408 and 812 were definetly falsely advertised.

Federal Signal has all siren units tested by an independent sound lab, so there is no false advertising. It's well known that some companies change their output overnight with no reason, usually after a competitor had a recent db increase.
Federal had a very bad habit of inflating the ratings on sirens in the 70s and 80s.

The thunderbeam's output was a fib also. There is no way that design could outperform or equal the output of a RM-127 or the 500AT it replaced.