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St. Charles County, MO: 11 Minute Delay in Siren Activation

Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:44 pm

Enjoy this read. Nothing like telling your staffer who presses the button to go home...before the storm hits.

Though in their defense, the tornadoes in St. Charles last week did sort of come out of nowhere. But still...lots of finger pointing.
St. Charles County officials review delay in tornado warning sirens last Saturday

ST. CHARLES COUNTY • County officials are reviewing an 11-minute delay in activating tornado warning sirens last Saturday to see whether any changes are needed.

The National Weather Service issued a tornado warning for the county at 3:42 p.m. but the 120 sirens overseen by the county emergency management office weren't turned on until 3:53, said county spokeswoman Colene McEntee.

A tornado touched down at 3:56 near Highway 94 and Old Highway 94, the Weather Service said, damaging businesses and homes in the Harvester-St. Peters area.

In contrast, 14 other sirens operated by St. Peters sounded within three minutes after the Weather Service warning, said city spokeswoman Lisa Bedian.

County officials said the delay occurred after the sheriff's department emergency management division decided against keeping a staffer at its office in the county jail building in St. Charles the full day. That's where the sirens are activated.

Instead, a duty officer monitored the situation remotely, she said. That decision was made, she said, after employees consulted a National Weather Service chat room online and called the service about 11:30 a.m. There was only rain at the time, she said, and no "significant activity" imminent.

When the duty officer was later informed of the tornado warning by a weather radio, she said, he drove to the office to activate the sirens.

She said the county's firefighter and ambulance dispatching office in Wentzville, which can activate the sirens as a backup, also was notified.

Fred Glass, a senior Weather Service meteorologist, said St. Charles County staffers apparently made an incorrect inference from the chat room discussions. Glass said no one at his office recalls talking with a county staffer that day.

Glass said a siren delay is unusual. He said his office will work with county officials to "minimize the chances of it happening again."

County Executive Steve Ehlmann said "if there are ways we can improve, we certainly are going to do it."

Rod Zerr, a former county emergency management director who is running for executive in this year's elections, said county residents should be "outraged" at the delay.

Bedian said St. Peters' sirens are activated by city police, which is staffed 24 hours a day. St. Louis County's emergency operations office center isn't staffed all the time but county warning sirens are activated at county police headquarters which is staffed around the clock.
Source: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt ... dde6a.html

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Re: St. Charles County, MO: 11 Minute Delay in Siren Activat

Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:47 am

What does St. Charles have siren wise?

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Re: St. Charles County, MO: 11 Minute Delay in Siren Activat

Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:29 pm

Whelens, primarily 2800s and some 2900s in there too. That's the county system they're referring to. I believe Wentzville's FPUed 3016s are tied into the county system as well (and I know they've been putting up 2900s along with O'Fallon, which I know is tied into the county system). St. Peters has it's own system that's mainly 2001s. The city of St. Charles also has a system independent of the county and they have T-128s with a few T-121s scattered about.

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Re: St. Charles County, MO: 11 Minute Delay in Siren Activat

Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:54 pm

It was my understanding that St Charles county emergency management could activate all the sirens in the county with independent control retained by St Peters,Wentzville,and O'Fallon of their respective systems.I wonder why St Charles county 911 dispatch doesn't have the ability to activate them.It seems to work fine in countless other systems. Suburban beauracracy at its finest on display.

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Re: St. Charles County, MO: 11 Minute Delay in Siren Activat

Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:17 am

Maybe the county should consider the StormReady Program!

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Re: St. Charles County, MO: 11 Minute Delay in Siren Activat

Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:48 pm

I wonder why St Charles county 911 dispatch doesn't have the ability to activate them.It seems to work fine in countless other systems. Suburban beauracracy at its finest on display.

Excellent question about why the 911 center doesn't have the ability to activate the sirens. Seems in the year 2014 their dispatch center would have the means to activate the sirens. Our sirens here have been set up for activation by 911 dispatch for quite a few years (not a new concept). Could be one of those "well we never did it that way before, why should we do it now" situations that come back to bite.

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