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Re: B&N 44E Mobil Directo Third Signal Capability?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:26 pm
by NahIDee
Darley Champion wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:00 am
Travis wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:33 pm
There once existed a recording of either an Allertor or Banshee doing this "yelp" signal. From what I understand this was accomplished by changing the polarity of the motor leads to electrically "brake" the motor. I don't know how many units were ordered with that capability, but it would seem this would damage the motor over time.
IIRC Doerr made special motors intended for this yelping signal, that polarity revarsal thing was dropped when ACA started using Baldor motors
It would still mean having to quickly stop the from siren rotating also, which I'd think that would wear out the gear reducer due to it going from 3450 RPM to 0 in only a few seconds.

Re: B&N 44E Mobil Directo Third Signal Capability?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:34 pm
by Darley Champion
That too, it would still have pulled a lot of strain, I don't really know much if ACA did indeed used polarity reversal to achieve a yelping signal (only that I've heard long ago from a certain member of the board) but if they wanted to go down that way, they must have designed the reducer so it could take the extra strain... Again ICBW

Re: B&N 44E Mobil Directo Third Signal Capability?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:43 pm
by MaineCivilDefense
They did use polarity reversal to make a yelp signal. In the manual of the Allertor and Screamer, it said the 3rd signal would be such. For the rotator, they might've used a separate motor.

How rare are ACA sirens with the yelp tone capability anyways?

Re: B&N 44E Mobil Directo Third Signal Capability?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:54 pm
by NahIDee
MaineCivilDefense wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:43 pm
They did use polarity reversal to make a yelp signal. In the manual of the Allertor and Screamer, it said the 3rd signal would be such. For the rotator, they might've used a separate motor.

How rare are ACA sirens with the yelp tone capability anyways?
I'm going to assume none exist anymore. But I would think that there were some that existed, probably long before my time though.

Re: B&N 44E Mobil Directo Third Signal Capability?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:42 am
by Darley Champion
Yup, I'm not even sure if they ever sold any with the 3rd signal capacity.

Re: B&N 44E Mobil Directo Third Signal Capability?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:30 pm
by NahIDee
Darley Champion wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:42 am
Yup, I'm not even sure if they ever sold any with the 3rd signal capacity.
They probably sold until ACA realized that this could damage the siren.

Re: B&N 44E Mobil Directo Third Signal Capability?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:16 pm
by Chem_Boffin_6589
They would know if it damaged it during their own quality control tests surely.

Re: B&N 44E Mobil Directo Third Signal Capability?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:09 pm
by Darley Champion
T'was most likely a special order that never caught on... Or technically was too complicated when it came to mass production.

Re: B&N 44E Mobil Directo Third Signal Capability?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:19 pm
by NahIDee

Re: B&N 44E Mobil Directo Third Signal Capability?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:16 pm
by Darley Champion
Pretty much.. I'm not denying this option was never used but rather saying the existing ones were eithier removed or stripped of their "yelping" capacity.