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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:47 pm 
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Recorded: 7/1/19

Wow! I am finally pleased to reveal my discovery from January. Here we have a Whelen WS-2000-R, on a digital ESC-2020 560hz controller, running wail signal. Chetek also has a WS-3000 on the same controller, and a VortexO1. It was raining today so Nate & I weren't sure if they would test. I attempted to record this siren with Tom & Josh back in June but the batteries were dead. Barron county tests 1st Monday of the month at 11am, weather permitting, April-October.
That's all folks! -WiS&S

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:36 pm 
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Hats off to you. What a remarkable find. While it's a shame it's been FPUed, this is still, what, the third or fourth of these sirens caught on video?

Amazing find. Thank you for sharing.


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Hats off to you. What a remarkable find. While it's a shame it's been FPUed, this is still, what, the third or fourth of these sirens caught on video?

Amazing find. Thank you for sharing.
Fifth, I believe, though one of the records of St. Louis's ones has been deleted.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:39 am 
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Hats off to you. What a remarkable find. While it's a shame it's been FPUed, this is still, what, the third or fourth of these sirens caught on video?

Amazing find. Thank you for sharing.
To be completely honest, I am kinda glad and it's sister 3000 got FPUed, because most of the analog Whelens in this area have been removed in recent years. With them being digital now it should be easier to keep em going.

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Interesting that it doesn't oscillate like the 3016, 4004 & Vortex


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Interesting that it doesn't oscillate like the 3016, 4004 & Vortex
The 2000R was made to be a rotating siren tone only siren, effectively making it the predecessor to the Hornet. Voice capabilities were an option. If I'm not mistaken the ones in STL oscillated. There was a video like a decade ago of one on YouTube running in alert, but like David said the video was removed. Those were voice capable, so I'm guessing they were equipped with a WS-3000 rotator when they were ordered as voice capable sirens. That system was a beauty. It kinda sucks that they were replaced, but it was for the best.

Since you mention it this one is on a Type II cabinet that was made in the mid-2000's. I'm really curious on how they wired it up, since all modern Whelen rotating sirens obviously oscillate and their controllers from the analog ESC-864 and up weren't built to drive this siren. Up until this point I was always under the assumption that if the limit switch for the home position were to never engage that the controller would stop after a few seconds and throw a fit somehow. I wonder if they were able to maintain two way communications with this siren. Unless there's a way to bypass the home limit switch in the software or in the relay itself it would always be flagged as having a rotation failure whenever it undergoes a SI test.

On that note since this siren is more or less Whelen's scaled down version of an EOWS-408 that means that their controllers are effectively able to drive pretty much any electronic siren that has collector rings. The drivers and amps probably won't like it, but this shows that it is possible. A Whelen controlled EWOS-612 or AL-6000R would be a sight to see. There have been older ATI's and EOWS-115's found in the wild with Whelen controls, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that we may end up finding one "modded" and driving something it wasn't built to run one day.

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DJ2226 wrote:
If I'm not mistaken the ones in STL oscillated.
They did. I distinctly remember them doing so.
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Those were voice capable, so I'm guessing they were equipped with a WS-3000 rotator when they were ordered as voice capable sirens.


That they were. The voice feature was optional on the 2000R (see the literature posted in the WS-2500 thread) and I assume if ordered as an option this is what happened so they could be indexed.

I don't know what modern Whelens use but the older ones used a strobe tracking system that could be overridden as had to be done on the 2700s (see its manual for more).


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