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Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:17 pm
by Jacob boland
On July 27TH 2022, I got a special chance to watch One of the Ginna power plants ACA P-10's get replaced. The P-10 was Siren 77 located at the Williamson Fire department in Williamson NY. The siren was replaced due to it having a broken intake and rotator issues, I recorded this siren in May for it's yearly test and it was the final test ever for the siren. The brand New ASC T-128 was installed by ANS, I got to see the P-10 up close and I got to keep the control box while another friend of mine got the ASC radio for it. Here are some pictures of the replacement And P-10

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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:59 am
by nvanw27
Is there a replacement plan in place for the rest of the units, or are they being uninstalled as they develop issues?

Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:15 pm
by Bijay
nvanw27 wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:59 am
Is there a replacement plan in place for the rest of the units, or are they being uninstalled as they develop issues?
From what I remember, I'm pretty sure around the 2000s, Ginna did replace several sirens as part of an unincorporated project; however, it never went fully through. As from what you and OP said, it's concluded that when one of their 40-year old sirens begins to wear-out, they'll just replace it with a new one.

Oh, and also. Isn't it required for nuclear power plants to have sirens with battery-backups? I remember seeing it in a 2004/2005 FEMA document.

Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:42 pm
by Jacob boland
nvanw27 wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:59 am
Is there a replacement plan in place for the rest of the units, or are they being uninstalled as they develop issues?
They are replacing them as they break, They said "Because we are cheap we only replace broken sirens.

Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:44 pm
by Jacob boland
Bijay wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:15 pm
nvanw27 wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:59 am
Is there a replacement plan in place for the rest of the units, or are they being uninstalled as they develop issues?
From what I remember, I'm pretty sure around the 2000s, Ginna did replace several sirens as part of an unincorporated project; however, it never went fully through. As from what you and OP said, it's concluded that when one of their 40-year old sirens begins to wear-out, they'll just replace it with a new one.

Oh, and also. Isn't it required for nuclear power plants to have sirens with battery-backups? I remember seeing it in a 2004/2005 FEMA document.
I thought so. Apparently Not as these don't have battery backup and Only Newer radios. And I think these new sirens have Battery backup but I can't confirm that.

Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:48 pm
by siren fan
So I guess they're scrapping the P-10?

Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:48 pm
by dat612freakoftoday
siren fan wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:48 pm
So I guess they're scrapping the P-10?
They probably are if it is broken

Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:09 pm
by Jacob boland
siren fan wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:48 pm
So I guess they're scrapping the P-10?
Yeah. It currently Is In Sweedsburo NJ Being "Inspected".

Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:14 pm
by dat612freakoftoday
Jacob boland wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:17 pm
On July 27TH 2022, I got a special chance to watch One of the Ginna power plants ACA P-10's get replaced. The P-10 was Siren 77 located at the Williamson Fire department in Williamson NY. The siren was replaced due to it having a broken intake and rotator issues, I recorded this siren in May for it's yearly test and it was the final test ever for the siren. The brand New ASC T-128 was installed by ANS, I got to see the P-10 up close and I got to keep the control box while another friend of mine got the ASC radio for it. Here are some pictures of the replacement And P-10

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Wait, what about that 3T22 or 3T22A right next to it? Did that get removed as well? Also when will they put back up the P-10 or is it just gone forever and the T128 just took its position? If it is gone forever then, R.I.P ACA P-10 ????-2022

Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:55 pm
by sirensandfirealarms
dat612freakoftoday wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:14 pm
Jacob boland wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:17 pm
On July 27TH 2022, I got a special chance to watch One of the Ginna power plants ACA P-10's get replaced. The P-10 was Siren 77 located at the Williamson Fire department in Williamson NY. The siren was replaced due to it having a broken intake and rotator issues, I recorded this siren in May for it's yearly test and it was the final test ever for the siren. The brand New ASC T-128 was installed by ANS, I got to see the P-10 up close and I got to keep the control box while another friend of mine got the ASC radio for it. Here are some pictures of the replacement And P-10

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Wait, what about that 3T22 or 3T22A right next to it? Did that get removed as well? Also when will they put back up the P-10 or is it just gone forever and the T128 just took its position? If it is gone forever then, R.I.P ACA P-10 ????-2022
The T-128 replaced the P-10 permanently. Ginna is a nuclear system so it's honestly a miracle that the siren even existed that long. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission requires that all nuclear sirens have battery backup, and plants will get fined if they do not have them. Every other nuclear system in the US has switched to battery backup. The 3T22 is a fire siren, so it's not likely to get removed unless the fire department decides to.