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Michigan enthusiasts, need your help on this Thunderbolt!
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:03 am
by tboltsiren599
So, I got the help from a friend of mine back in May of 2024 to acquire two 4/5 port Thunderbolts from West Shore Services. He took one for himself and I took the other. The serial number on it is "T-1442-D", the serial number seems to be close to some other Thunderbolts around Michigan. Would anyone have a clue where its from or have any hints? Its a 1959 A2 5M 4/5, it showed up to West Shore Services around the mid/late 1990's to the early 2000's. Not sure if that'll help but that's all I got. My guess for the past while is its from somewhere in the Detroit metro.
Re: Michigan enthusiasts, need your help on this Thunderbolt!
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 6:25 am
by creeperfan12
idk

beats me
Re: Michigan enthusiasts, need your help on this Thunderbolt!
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:45 am
by Greenrid
EDIT: I'm changing my best guess to be Kalamazoo. The year matches the same year the still standing Thunderbolt on the roof was installed, and they even are both a 4/5 port! The only problem is that the serial number isn't known for the one still standing, and the one in the database of a removed one is in the 3000 range. I'm still going with Kalamazoo.
West Shore Services has some sirens from out of state, so there is a chance this is from another system from a different state!
Re: Michigan enthusiasts, need your help on this Thunderbolt!
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:23 pm
by tboltsiren599
That's what I originally thought too, but if i remember correctly, I found out they only had the one 4/5 that's still currently in place.
Re: Michigan enthusiasts, need your help on this Thunderbolt!
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:08 pm
by Greenrid
tboltsiren599 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:23 pm
That's what I originally thought too, but if i remember correctly, I found out they only had the one 4/5 that's still currently in place.
I swear the one in the database was a different removed one, it said so on there too. The serial number for yours is also in the database as well, but no info is given about it, although it was marked as a 1000 for some reason. My second guess was Detroit, so if it isn't Kalamazoo I'll go with Detroit!
I've talked too much about the database, here's a link for it:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... id=0#gid=0
Re: Michigan enthusiasts, need your help on this Thunderbolt!
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:03 pm
by tboltsiren599
Greenrid wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:08 pm
tboltsiren599 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:23 pm
That's what I originally thought too, but if i remember correctly, I found out they only had the one 4/5 that's still currently in place.
I swear the one in the database was a different removed one, it said so on there too. The serial number for yours is also in the database as well, but no info is given about it, although it was marked as a 1000 for some reason. My second guess was Detroit, so if it isn't Kalamazoo I'll go with Detroit!
I've talked too much about the database, here's a link for it:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... id=0#gid=0
I gotcha, I'm a editor and contributor to the thunderbolt map and serial registries. Let me link you the better in order registries: 1952-1977
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =797336747 and Date Code Registry
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0
Re: Michigan enthusiasts, need your help on this Thunderbolt!
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:16 pm
by Greenrid
tboltsiren599 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:03 pm
Greenrid wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:08 pm
tboltsiren599 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:23 pm
That's what I originally thought too, but if i remember correctly, I found out they only had the one 4/5 that's still currently in place.
I swear the one in the database was a different removed one, it said so on there too. The serial number for yours is also in the database as well, but no info is given about it, although it was marked as a 1000 for some reason. My second guess was Detroit, so if it isn't Kalamazoo I'll go with Detroit!
I've talked too much about the database, here's a link for it:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... id=0#gid=0
I gotcha, I'm a editor and contributor to the thunderbolt map and serial registries. Let me link you the better in order registries: 1952-1977
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =797336747 and Date Code Registry
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0
I don't know why, but it always seems the things that I try to show people they end up being a contributor to them! I'm going to have to start assuming everyone knows what I mean now
A little off topic, but I think I can help with some more of Lansing's Thunderbolt serial numbers. 15 of them were originally installed in 1965, with some more added on to the system in later years. The serial numbers for those original ones should be very similar to eachother, but I don't know what the exact numbers are for each of the locations. When I go back to WSS, I I'll try to remember to take note of them!
Re: Michigan enthusiasts, need your help on this Thunderbolt!
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:27 am
by SpanishFriedEggs
I would assume this could have been in Oakland County's old system, the time frame for when this could have shown up at WSS would make sense since They started removing their thunderbolt's not long after September 11th. Oakland county had a mixture of different port ratios including 4/5 port units, with one still remaining in Madison Heights.
Re: Michigan enthusiasts, need your help on this Thunderbolt!
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:31 am
by tboltsiren599
SpanishFriedEggs wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:27 am
I would assume this could have been in Oakland County's old system, the time frame for when this could have shown up at WSS would make sense since They started removing their thunderbolt's not long after September 11th. Oakland county had a mixture of different port ratios including 4/5 port units, with one still remaining in Madison Heights.
Idk why I never thought of that. You're probably correct on that, thank you!