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Unknown Siren What could it be
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:55 am
by Archon
Here is a Siren I acquired today. It is dual tone 6/10 port 3HP 3 Phase Lable on shround says Westinghouse. Was put in Rock Springs Wisconsin. in 1930 by Ted Decot the maker of the Decot's. was used there untill 1990 when it was replaced by a ACA Allertonic 4000 because they wanted something louder. (yea really, the Allertronic doesn't work half the time) This siren still does work but as you can see It needs some loving care which it will be getting soon it will become Smoke Grey in color. The person I got it from and me think it maybe a Denver Siren?
Westinghouse siren? Prototype Siren made my Ted Decot? Maybe it is a Custom made 1 of a kind siren? Any ideas on what this could be


Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:33 am
by kx250rider
That is a nice find, and thank you for saving it! The shape of that motor looks like a 1920s Westinghouse. I had a bench grinder with what appeared to be that exact motor housing. But mine was 110v single phase.
Is there a tag under all that crud and paint on the body of the motor? Mine had a brass tag with 2 tiny screws securing it.
I have no knowledge to offer on that siren, but I would bet that it's a very limited production unit; probably a one-run order. Thank goodness it's in your hands and not at the metal salvage yard!
Charles
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:35 am
by Daniel
Man, you've got a lucky find. I don't know who made it, but I've never heard of a 6/10 ratio before. Hedberg had some 6 port sirens, but this combination is very interesting. My frequency generator is giving me the notes "F" and "D", with the "F" being just below the sharp "G" of the STL-10. I'm looking forward to sound files when you get it restored. What voltage and phase does it use?
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:10 am
by Archon
Was originay 240/480. But Rock Springs Burn it up in the 80's 3 times and had it rewound 3 times (It froze up in Winter and they didn't know it ws ice jamed and and turned it on and it went wamy not once but they did it 3 times.) It is now wound 240-only 3 phase. There is not Tag on Motor only on the shroud. It is a LOW slip motor It comes up to speed rignt away I have been told. And it is VERY heavy It broke my trailer I used to bring it home. IT was over the axel on trailer and it moved 6 inches back from bumps on the freeway. At 70mph the back of the trailer went down on the road it had come off the yoke in the front. Thank god the siren didn't fall out. I has sparks flying from the trailer tho. Pulled over moved siren up to front of trailer and drove home (I was only 5 miles away from home) Is a tilting trailer the latch broke and now the bed is off center so I will have some fun fixing it on my vacation.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:31 am
by Gil
Looks like a variant of a Federal Model 1.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:28 pm
by Rheems1
Awhile back, there was a thread about a video of the siren from Massapequea, NY. Same siren, 6/10 port ratio.. it sounds freaking wicked! The video used to be on here, it is on Long Island Fire Alarm.. but the knowledge board is down now.
What a unique and treasureable find you have there!!! Savor it, for it is a very rare one. Also, I don't have the slightest clue what that thing... there was alot of discussion about it on Long Island Fire Alarm.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:30 pm
by SirenMadness
I think that you're referring to the siren that I posted a link to, here. That siren has, I think, a seven-to-ten port-ration. Most think that it is an H.O.R. type of siren.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:39 pm
by Daniel
A Model 1 is much smaller -- about the diameter of this siren's motor. This doesn't look like anything from HOR, but is doesn't look like a Decot either. It almost looks like a Federal. By the way, the original drawings for the 2T22 showed a 7/10 configuration like the HOR. I don't know whether any of these were actually built.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:45 pm
by SirenMadness
N/A.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:46 pm
by SirenMadness
HERE is the link to the thread of the initial discussion on this siren.