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Re: After market Radio activators?

Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:41 pm

uncommonsense wrote:How about manufacturing, sheet metal fabrication, rotor and stator manufacturing, motor purchasing, wiring, controller manufacture and programming (circuit board design and printing), etc.

I get this impression you are not very old. So yes. UL and FEMA are the least of your worries. Unless you have uniquely deep pockets (and advanced access to some complex manufacturing resources), you are way out of your league.

I couldn't have said this any better myself.
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Re: After market Radio activators?

Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:38 pm

Yeah, I suggest you back it down a notch. Unless you have access to a foundry, an engineering team, a machine shop, and an attorney you are way in over your head.

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Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:54 pm

holler wrote:Yeah, I suggest you back it down a notch. Unless you have access to a foundry, an engineering team, a machine shop, and an attorney you are way in over your head.
Foundry: I have a very ghetto one
Machine shop: Allmost finished with mine (Big time CNC guy)
Engineering team: Why? I know allot about engineering( Planing to go to school for it)
Attorney: Shouldn't need one, but i know one... :roll:
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Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:03 pm

Foundry: I have a very ghetto one
Machine shop: Allmost finished with mine (Big time CNC guy)
Engineering team: Why? I know allot about engineering( Planing to go to school for it)
Attorney: Shouldn't need one, but i know one... :roll:
So let me get this straight...

You have a foundry that can die cast 12" diameter (one example) metallic rotors, including meltdown operation...and/or can cut solid metal appropriately?

A CNC machine? Why do I have a feeling we're talking 3D printer here. And there's no siren that can be 3D printed (given 3D printers print in plastic) without flying apart from the forces sirens create.

How old are you? I'm strongly suspect you lack a comprehension of advanced mechanical and acoustic engineering concepts (I'm sorry, that sounds really harsh, but if you're as young as your posting habits suggest then I can tell you that you haven't even had enough physics and calculus to begin to comprehend even moderate engineering concepts, let alone the advanced ones needed to properly design a working siren).

Attorney: I would imagine you would want someone to aid you in getting your design through regulatory approval and maybe even patented.

Look, I know I'm this all sounds very harsh, but you need to realize you have a lot of growing and learning to do yet. The arrogance you are displaying will hinder that learning and growing dramatically.

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Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:16 pm

uncommonsense wrote:
Foundry: I have a very ghetto one
Machine shop: Allmost finished with mine (Big time CNC guy)
Engineering team: Why? I know allot about engineering( Planing to go to school for it)
Attorney: Shouldn't need one, but i know one... :roll:
So let me get this straight...

You have a foundry that can die cast 12" diameter (one example) metallic rotors, including meltdown operation...and/or can cut solid metal appropriately?

A CNC machine? Why do I have a feeling we're talking 3D printer here. And there's no siren that can be 3D printed (given 3D printers print in plastic) without flying apart from the forces sirens create.

How old are you? I'm strongly suspect you lack a comprehension of advanced mechanical and acoustic engineering concepts (I'm sorry, that sounds really harsh, but if you're as young as your posting habits suggest then I can tell you that you haven't even had enough physics and calculus to begin to comprehend even moderate engineering concepts, let alone the advanced ones needed to properly design a working siren).

Attorney: I would imagine you would want someone to aid you in getting your design through regulatory approval and maybe even patented.

Look, I know I'm this all sounds very harsh, but you need to realize you have a lot of growing and learning to do yet. The arrogance you are displaying will hinder that learning and growing dramatically.
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Re: After market Radio activators?

Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:19 pm

There really is no convincing you, is there? Given you clearly don't have a concept of what a large scale project you are proposing (and that you don't have a grasp on the foundry aspect of all of this), simply put, I've done what I can.
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Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:20 pm

uncommonsense wrote:There really is no convincing you, is there? Given you clearly don't have a concept of what a large scale project you are proposing (and that you don't have a grasp on the foundry aspect of all of this), simply put, I've done what I can.
Why should i stop? I enjoy this stuff :D
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Re: After market Radio activators?

Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:36 pm

We aren't trying to squash your dreams and all, but unless you MANY years of acoustic engineering experience there is no way you can build ANYTHING that will compete with what is being made today or has been made in the past.

We just want you to back off the arrogance and know it all part some, it gets really annoying.

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Re: After market Radio activators?

Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:40 pm

Thanks, holler. Those words are perfectly chosen.

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Re: After market Radio activators?

Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:40 pm

lilrags16 wrote:
uncommonsense wrote:There really is no convincing you, is there? Given you clearly don't have a concept of what a large scale project you are proposing (and that you don't have a grasp on the foundry aspect of all of this), simply put, I've done what I can.
Why should i stop? I enjoy this stuff :D
Just because you enjoy it doesn't mean it's possible. If you can't afford it, can't find the resources, or a combo of both, you can't do it. Money is a big factor here. If you don't have it, you can't do it, simple as that.

In the world, most large-scale tasks such as developing and producing a siren is more easily said than done. You are hinting that it's as simple as 1-2-3, which it isn't. I, for example, have designed some sirens I'd like to either get 3D printed or milled from aluminum, and I can't do it because I can't find people to do it and I can't afford it.
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