User avatar
SoundMaster 391
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 655
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:07 pm
YouTube Username: SoundMaster 391

Re: Input needed on a Thunderbolt mounting issue

Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:11 pm

Valtonus wrote:In my opinion, you should do a single pole install. It would not only save time of having to put up 2 entire poles, it would also save money. As said, a dual pole mount wouldn't prevent vandals any more than a single pole mount would. The blower is suspended on a wooden platform, and the control box is on the pole.

Here is a random picture I found of a Thunderbolt in Hawaii.
Thunderbolt hawaii.jpg
I highly suggest that you use a single pole mount.
Ah yes. That was the Thunderbolt 1000AT located at Maunalua Bay. This Thunderbolt is famous because of its high pitch that was caused by the workers not wiring the RCM correctly. Sadly the siren was replaced back in 2011 with a ASC I-Force . Somehow that siren was very interesting. The controls had the older "FS Thunderbolt" logo while the rotator box had the newer version Thunderbolt logo. Here is a video of the siren.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQZS9sobMmk
Owner of a Federal Enterprises Model 2, Federal Electric Model D, Sentry F2 and AR Timer
Click here for SoundMasters YouTube Channel
Image
Image

User avatar
Stormsetter4
Registered User
Registered User
Posts: 1128
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:23 am
Real Name: Cruz
YouTube Username: Stormsetter4
Location: Kimberling City, MO
Contact: Website

Re: Input needed on a Thunderbolt mounting issue

Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:18 pm

It's not that bad, trust me:
Image

Currently trying either to move this one down lower or have more guy wires installed on it.
-Cruz Newberry
Table Rock Alerting Systems, LLC
Emergency Alerting Systems for Communities & Industry


Website


Youtube Channel

User avatar
SoundMaster 391
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 655
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:07 pm
YouTube Username: SoundMaster 391

Re: Input needed on a Thunderbolt mounting issue

Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:29 pm

stormsetter4 wrote:It's not that bad, trust me:
Image

Currently trying either to move this one down lower or have more guy wires installed on it.
Why did the install the blower so far up there?
Owner of a Federal Enterprises Model 2, Federal Electric Model D, Sentry F2 and AR Timer
Click here for SoundMasters YouTube Channel
Image
Image

User avatar
Thun-1003guy
Registered User
Registered User
Posts: 64
Joined: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:20 pm
Real Name: Jonathan
Location: Scottsbluff, NE

Re: Input needed on a Thunderbolt mounting issue

Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:46 pm

All materials could be reused, like the blower platform and such, all we would really need is one new pole. The utility company went out and inspected the sign and informed me that even though the pole is warped, it still can handle the load of the siren. I believe this Thunderbolt along with the others will be replaced this year so I'm sure they don't want to spend any money fixing it for a couple of month. Here's another install in town that's been there since the late 70's and it's still fine, no warping on leaning.
Attachments
image.jpeg
image.jpeg (958.77 KiB) Viewed 3551 times

User avatar
4J25
Registered User
Registered User
Posts: 1766
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:22 pm
Real Name: Christian
YouTube Username: 4j25
Location: Villa Hills, KY

Re: Input needed on a Thunderbolt mounting issue

Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:49 pm

Unfortunate that they are being replaced, however, battery backup is always a plus! (Assuming you're getting it!)
Christian Bricking, living in the Cincinnati Metropolitan Area.
Owner of a WPS-2804, Model L, and B9.
Certified Skywarn spotter since April 5, 2016.
Image

SuperBanshee
Registered User
Registered User
Posts: 309
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:12 am

Re: Input needed on a Thunderbolt mounting issue

Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:52 pm

When pole-mounting the siren, the blower is usually no more than a third of the way up the pole. This is how the majority of Thunderbolt setups I've seen were laid out however there's no strict level for blower height.
The manual actually does show a Thunderbolt with its blower near the top of the pole, so it appears this layout was factory approved. However, each contractor tended to do what they felt was right as opposed to regarding any strict instructions. This is how you get oddball setups like the two-pole layout. I always point to what's suggested in the manual since every method listed there would have been certified by Federal. No matter how it's set up, the Thunderbolt is a balancing act that takes much care and skill to really pull off.

If your town is really replacing the Thunderbolt siren, then I suppose it would be redundant to try and fix it. It's ultimately up to the town in regards to what will be done with the sirens.

User avatar
Stormsetter4
Registered User
Registered User
Posts: 1128
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:23 am
Real Name: Cruz
YouTube Username: Stormsetter4
Location: Kimberling City, MO
Contact: Website

Re: Input needed on a Thunderbolt mounting issue

Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:32 pm

SoundMaster 391 wrote:
stormsetter4 wrote:It's not that bad, trust me:
Image

Currently trying either to move this one down lower or have more guy wires installed on it.
Why did the install the blower so far up there?
It was originally installed in another city on the roof of a building and it was a donor siren. Wasn't the best idea at the time, but it has held up considerably well in the 14 or so years it has been up in the air.
-Cruz Newberry
Table Rock Alerting Systems, LLC
Emergency Alerting Systems for Communities & Industry


Website


Youtube Channel

User avatar
Unit of Civil Defense
Registered User
Registered User
Posts: 281
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 3:11 am
Location: Topeka,Ks.

Re: Input needed on a Thunderbolt mounting issue

Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:24 am

The Thunderbolt that still stands in the old neighborhood is a 2 pole set up that was installed in late 1966 early 1967...no issues what so ever....more stable than a lot of single pole T-bolts that I have seen over the years.....lot of offset weight to be putting on a single pole IMHO
Rheems1 wrote: I petition that everyone who joins the board should have to put there age or year of birth in thier signature...32 here
....Lifes divine, I'm 59

User avatar
Thun-1003guy
Registered User
Registered User
Posts: 64
Joined: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:20 pm
Real Name: Jonathan
Location: Scottsbluff, NE

Re: Input needed on a Thunderbolt mounting issue

Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:14 am

I think the double pole mount is a better set up with area with high winds. I know it's a lot of wood and material for a Thunderbolt to double pole mount it but I like that style better.

Return to “Main Outdoor Warning Sirens Board”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot], Bing [Bot], federal signal 3t22 and 18 guests