I would be willing to give you my phone number if you would like to call me each time it goes of.... I can't think of a better greeting than a T-bolt 1003 going off. They are loud and I agree that there should be limits... sounding those things for EMS calls is extreme...as for fire calls... I say let it sound... and yes I would be more than happy to have a siren 3 or 4 houses away that goes for calls... we got rid of ours because we were stupid.
Dave Fritz
Rob 17th - I grew up 1000' from a model 5 that would sound 24/7. I have to say it never bothered me, but attracted me to the Fire Service. As for EFFD running the T-Bolts, I don't have any idea of the Department's policy on usage, but believe they should be used for "True Emergencies", such as a Vehicle Extrication, Structure Fire and CPR calls.
I have been w/my Department for 17 years and YES we have pagers, but many times over the 17 years I have inadvertently left the pager away from my person and have heard the siren. I am 100% certain that if the "True Emergency" involved your family or property, you would not give a damn about those T-Bolts during that moment.
I have been w/my Department for 17 years and YES we have pagers, but many times over the 17 years I have inadvertently left the pager away from my person and have heard the siren. I am 100% certain that if the "True Emergency" involved your family or property, you would not give a damn about those T-Bolts during that moment.
I was, when i bought my house the firehouse was much smaller and only sounded a much smaller siren at noon on sundays. what some of you don't seem to be getting is the fact that the current siren is a health hazard.Franz? wrote:Real simple question; What was there first, you or the siren?Rob 17th wrote:i can understand how some of you are enthusiastic about sirens but you need to understand somerthing about this one:
The one on the corner of wellwood ave and 17th street is in a residential neighborhood.
It is within 50 feet of some peoples homes.I myself live about 3 houses away from it.
It has given decibel readings well OVER 109
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I really dislike people who move in next to airports because houses are cheap and female dog about the noise. I also dislike to the point of wanting to watch them drown people who move into waterways and cry about flooding.
Decibel Exposure Time GuidelinesAccepted standards for recommended permissible exposure time for continuous time weighted average noise, according to NIOSH and CDC, 2002. For every 3 dBs over 85dB, the permissible exposure time before possible damage can occur is cut in half.
109 dB 1.875 min (< 2min)
by the end of summer we might need one of these on the block
Well, first, so is the Sun a health hazard, as well as deadley DiHydrogen Monoxide, Lead Paint, cow farts, deranged police chases, Firetrucks, Ambulances and Taxicabs, not necessarily in that order. Then there's the terrible Global Warming we're constantly warned about by the leading candidate for Village Idiot Algore, red meat, eggs (might not be this year) artificial sweeteners, the possibility Hillopotomous might get nominated, black bears, rabid dogs, West Nile Virus, and I'm fairly certain a few other things that don't immediately come to my mind.Rob 17th wrote:[I was, when i bought my house the firehouse was much smaller and only sounded a much smaller siren at noon on sundays. what some of you don't seem to be getting is the fact that the current siren is a health hazard.
Decibel Exposure Time GuidelinesAccepted standards for recommended permissible exposure time for continuous time weighted average noise, according to NIOSH and CDC, 2002. For every 3 dBs over 85dB, the permissible exposure time before possible damage can occur is cut in half.
109 dB 1.875 min (< 2min)
by the end of summer we might need one of these on the block
The probability of you loosing your hearing from a siren more than 50 feet from your ears is extremely low on the list of things to be concerned about. Actually, you fall directly into the category of people who move in next to airports and beach about the noise. What did you think the firehouse was going to do, shrink?
Obviously you aren't looking for a solution, unless it's your solution of the siren being silenced. If you were, you'd be politely explaining your concerns to the Department, and backing up your sound levels with a decibel meter.
I don't live that far from the Hilton FD siren, and after 50 years the only thing I find annoying about that machine is that it's a Ferderal. It blows each and every day at Noon, and for every Fire and Ambulance call. A single 30 second blast for an ambulance run and a full pattern for every fire call, and all firemen in the Department as well as the Ambulance Corps carry alphanumeric pagers that display the location of the call.
Get a grip on reality, insulate and stay in your house and do yourself 2 favors at once, you also won't need to be concerned about Aolar radiation. You'll even be fairly safe statisticly from runaway garbage trucks and other vehicular assaults on your person. Should a vehicle run over you, I feel fairly confident you'll take solace in hearing that siren blow a pattern to summon people who freely give of their time to come and haul your a$$ out from under the vehicle.
and you Obviously haven read my 1st post. I'm not pulling numbers out of my a$$. we have gone to the epa and and gotten readings of it from a decibel meter. we have also complained to the town and have been told they are a fire company and don't answer to the town. it dosen't stop them from taking my tax money though.Franz? wrote:
Actually, you fall directly into the category of people who move in next to airports and beach about the noise. Obviously you aren't looking for a solution, unless it's your solution of the siren being silenced. If you were, you'd be politely explaining your concerns to the Department, and backing up your sound levels with a decibel meter.
Well actually if you had paid attention in school and understood government forms, you'd know every Fire District in the State of NY has the option of being it's very own independant taxing authority.
That's right, the Fire District is on an equal footing with the Town and the County as a taxing authority. They make their own budget, and the County government collects their share for the Fire District.
So, your option is to either learn to enjoy the siren, or stand for office as a Fire Comissioner in the District. Hey, don't forget to cry, piss & moan about the 2% money the nasty firemen take down from insurance carriers on every fire insurance policy written in NY State bby a carrier that is not a NY Corporation. Your choice of geography places you in the territory of the most powerful political entitys in NY, Volunteer Fire Departments.
That's right, the Fire District is on an equal footing with the Town and the County as a taxing authority. They make their own budget, and the County government collects their share for the Fire District.
So, your option is to either learn to enjoy the siren, or stand for office as a Fire Comissioner in the District. Hey, don't forget to cry, piss & moan about the 2% money the nasty firemen take down from insurance carriers on every fire insurance policy written in NY State bby a carrier that is not a NY Corporation. Your choice of geography places you in the territory of the most powerful political entitys in NY, Volunteer Fire Departments.
so by your "logic" anything they choose to do is fine based on the idea that at some time i might need their help?Franz? wrote:I feel fairly confident you'll take solace in hearing that siren blow a pattern to summon people who freely give of their time to come and haul your a$$ out from under the vehicle.
for YEARS they didn't need a siren and had no problem braging in their newsletters (looking for donations) how they responded to record numbers of calls every year.
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